NIETZSCHEAN CHRISTIANITY: STILLBORN

Hello Laura,

We find Nietzsche's insanity evident early on. It is evident in his positions, his direction. His ideas more than imply that for him, Jesus resented the worldly imperialists (worldly masters) and that that resentment showed Jesus's weakness and inability to conquer through selfishness.

Nietzsche lost his faith in God. He discarded objective truth. Jesus said Jesus is the truth. Nietzsche rejected that. He said, thereby, that Jesus is wrong.

Nietzsche's philosophy leaves wide open the door for all the tyrannical aspects we've seen in history. He does this due to hypocrisy that is not anywhere in evidence in the teachings or exemplary life of Jesus.

Self-will apart from God is inherently selfish. Rejecting this and accepting nothing but subjectivity and relativism or the complete absence of objective and absolute righteousness leads down the slippery slope to sickness and death of the soul. This is Jesus's teaching. Those who follow Jesus down his narrow way accept it completely. Those who reject it are not his followers. They are not Christians.

Rejecting Jesus leaves nothing but antichrist (against Christ, God, righteousness). Opposition to Jesus is evil.

Evil is slavery to itself. Nietzsche's master was evil.

Jesus was not an atheist humanist. There is no perfection alone. There is no perfection apart from God. God is alive and in control.

There is no transcending the value of the kind and degree of love Jesus showed by going to the cross. It is objective and absolute value. It is eternal and infinite. If everyone were to be toward each other as Jesus asked, we'd be in heaven already.

Nietzsche was wrong and onto nothing.

Don't make the mistake of taking isolated incidences that by themselves can mistakenly be taken as indicative of a constantly compassionate nature. Nietzsche was not against inhumanity.

You wrote as follows:

What he hated was the posturing of mercy and kindness - people being charitable in order to present a favorable image to others and the so-called God they claim they believe in rather than being merciful and kind for the sake of being merciful and kind.

Jesus preached against doing things for show. He also preached to do righteousness for righteousness' sake. Where did Nietzsche learn it? He had been a Christian. He had studied for the priesthood. He certainly doesn't deserve credit for these things since they are such standout teachings of Jesus.

As for an abstract God, do you find quantum mechanics abstract in that way? Is the wave-particle duality so abstract that it doesn't exist for you? If they don't look straight at it or try to trick it to reveal itself in its waveform, then it paints as a wave. The moment they look in a way typical of their doubting spirit, it paints as particles. Now what is that awareness that to date the scientists just haven't been able to out think? Is it just child's play for God? Of course it is. Are they trying to grasp it from a Christian spiritual approach? No. Will God reveal it to them? If it will serve God's plan, it will be revealed.

As for doing things to get into heaven, the Pauline Christians would choke on the idea. We though hold with grace, faith, and deeds together.

We suggest you consider that those who want to join with God are going to run into many other spirits of that giving and sharing spirit. Those who want the opposite that is to say not to join with God are going to run into many other spirits all wanting to be top wild dog, and we mean selfish and brutally competitive. Take it or leave it. It's up to you, what God gives you to understand, what fits you.

May God bless everyone with the truth of Jesus's path.

Tom

Hello again Laura,

We agree with Jesus. Nietzsche didn't. Of course we're prejudice. Prejudice isn't inherently a bad thing.

We are prejudice in favor of feeding all the children of God free of charge. Others are prejudice against our prejudices. They don't want all the children of God fed for free because many who hate the idea make a living off manufactured scarcity. They hate the idea of sustainable abundance. It would mean they wouldn't be on top of others lording it over them asking for money to exist (to even have a bite to eat). We are prejudice in favor of pacifism and against war. We are prejudice in favor of sexual harmlessness against obfuscating the harm done by so-called acceptable alternative lifestyles. We are also prejudice against coercion and punishment. Many people hate some of our positions and love others. We have yet to find anyone who loves them all enough to openly say so on our website and to support the cause. So far, we stand alone with God, as we see Jesus's vision of his and our own God.

As for control, real Christianity is not about control in the sense you've used it in your comment but rather giving over to being controlled by righteousness for its sake. Righteousness for real Christianity is God. We seek to behave as God wants us to behave, which we know is the right way to behave.

Do good things flow from God on account of such behavior? Eventually they will, if one believes it. Is that why we behave a certain way? Well, yes, but it is an afterthought. First comes doing for righteousness sake (altruism). Then come the consequences, which are good and right and rewarding on purpose. There's nothing wrong or selfish in that sequence of events.

You say, "You don’t have to believe in God to surrender “to God”." Think about what you are saying. "I surrender to that in which I don't believe. I surrender to what I consider false." That's confusion and leads nowhere good.

You also wrote, "And depending upon how you define Christ, Christianity itself could be seen as the anti-Christ because it has become so bloated and self-important." That's why we have written so much about false Christianity. False Christianity, which has not brought forth, is definitely antichrist. As for applying the terms "bloated," we say false Christianity is beyond bloated (not in Nietzsche's context but in the common-usage sense). As for "self-important," the false version of Christianity is of course self-important and undeserving. Real Christianity is also self-important, but real Christianity defines itself as falling in line with what God desires and God's will, which is the most important thing anyone or any group can do.

Jesus was and is about service only, shepherding, being last, raising up others, separating the selfish from the unselfish (saving the unselfish from the selfish), sacrificing self for wholesomeness (God), and so many other ways of expressing the entirety of his revelation.

Why did Nietzsche not see it this way? What happened to him? Why did he quit Jesus rather than seeing Jesus's real way?

Peace,

Tom

Hello Laura,

Nietzsche would agree with you - prejudice isn’t a “bad” thing. It simply is. Accept it, become aware of it, and overcome it.

We aren't though saying overcome prejudices. We are saying have the right ones. Jesus favored, and still favors, his flock. Others didn't, and won't, enter his kingdom because they'd ruin it with their evil selfishness, just as they ruin the world now.

They'll be separated away and live under their own standard to feel what it's like. If they come to value the compassion they refused to show to others and can show that they won't just slip right back into greed, violence, and other harmful states of mind and spirit, then wonderful.

It's all a learning process.

Do you really feed all of the children, “free of charge”, or do you place upon them an unrecognized cost? It’s like my friend who tried to save all of the drying out worms on the walkway during our walks. She felt “oh so good” about herself but maybe those worms were ready to die. Not saying saving children and saving worms are the same consideration, but it’s easy to feel good about yourself because you think you are doing “good” when all you are really doing is feeding your own narcissism. What is the motivation behind your need to “save”? Selflessness or selfullness?

The need to save is saving family members. We want everyone to come to define family as the whole of humanity and to act in the most beneficial manner towards each other. We believe and know Jesus showed the right way of behaving thusly (with priorities in proper order). We feel the pain and suffering of others and want to free them from the condition. We want everyone to care about everyone. That's Heaven.

As we wrote earlier, when one has his or her motivation in the right place, altruism comes first. Then any good feelings follow. The acts aren't done in order to feel good. It feels good because the acts were right.

As for the earthworms, one can take a purely Darwinian approach and believe that the species would be weakened by seemingly misguided human compassion. However, the spiritual realm is bigger than such Darwinism.

We don't hold that earthworms are as valuable (within a certain context) to God as are human souls. We don't though hold with indiscriminate killing. We do though live in the flesh off death. Nearly everything we eat was alive in the biological (scientific) sense. That doesn't mean that it is okay to just devour. In fact, we should do no more of it than is optimal. That's lost on the worldly world right now. Devouring is the ruling spirit in the here and now.

Also, there is always a yoke within a certain context. However, being free of evil is as free as it gets. Being free of evil, as God is, is being completely free. This is contextual. God is free to do evil but not free to do evil. This is no paradox. It is just understanding and employing the different contexts in their right places and their right times.

The charge of which we speak is the one placed upon the people by those who seek to profit in money off those who ought to be viewed as siblings, or at the very least cousins, welcome to come to the table to eat without having to shell out money. Regardless, human kind is just that, one kind.

Unfortunately, that one kind comes in different spiritual versions of choice. One of those versions denies that all should be treated as family and served by each and all as such. That spiritual version ruins everything. It views itself as first and foremost and seeks to lord it over the family members by violence. It doesn't appeal to the heart with love and all the rest for which Jesus called and calls. It doesn't appeal to the spirit of oneness. It just wants to exercise its selfish ego.

Nietzsche didn’t have a problem with Jesus. Go back and read him. What he had a problem with was Christianity 300 years after Jesus, which is true of all the existentialists. What the existentialists object to is the abstraction that was created by Greek philosophy which was readily adopted by the early Roman Catholics.

We focus upon the error of Constantine I. His worldly imperial ambitions co-opted the church in Rome. He twisted everything for selfish reasons. He ruined. He had plenty of sycophants to help. Their wrong and his wrong must be corrected. Everything that has been built up upon Constantine I's usurpation must be undone. The true teaching of Jesus must be restored in full.

However, according to Jesus, to not have a problem with Jesus is to love him and to believe in him and his name: Yah Saves (God Saves). Anyone who doesn't believe in those words, who doesn't do the work of God (benefit) to the best of his or her abilities, and who obfuscates the teachings and life of Jesus is dead of the spirit and will not enter Heaven. Nietzsche didn't love Jesus and believe in him or God. He did have a problem with Jesus. Nietzsche didn't want to profess Jesus's teachings and exemplary life as perfectly right. Nietzsche withheld his heart. Consequently, following Nietzsche does not lead to people necessarily doing the right things (behaving correctly). However, really following Jesus does necessarily lead people to doing the right things. The only problem in this world is with those who make themselves obstacles.

If everyone would just cooperate rather than selfishly compete, what a great place this would be. In order to get to that place (the right kind and degree of cooperation), it is necessary to accept the way of Jesus. There is no other path that leads all the way to perfection.

God bless,

Tom