CRITICISM OF THE REAL LIBERAL CHRISTIAN CHURCH: SEMANTICAL CONFUSION

CRITICISM OF THE REAL LIBERAL CHRISTIAN CHURCH: SEMANTICAL CONFUSIONI received the following form submission. I've removed information that might identify the sender. He may have a change of heart, and there's no sense in making that more difficult.

——- Original Message ——-
From: xxxxxx@xxxxxx.com
To: realliberalchristianchurch
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 8:00 PM
Subject: Form Submission

City:
Comments: After perusing your website for a short while, I see little about real peace, love or truth. As a matter of fact, I was left with a sick feeling reading several of the articles posted.

There have always been well organized, articulate people with shoddy ideas, and I can't think of a better category to describe this website and the thinking that has gone into it. Sorry, but it sucks.
CountryFilledIn: xxxxxx
CountrySelected:
CourtesyTitle: Mr.
Email: xxxxxx@xxxxxx.com
FirstName: xxxxxx
LastName: xxxxxx
MiddleInitial:
Nickname:
Organization:
ProfessionalTitle:
Sex: Male
StateFilledIn: xxxxxx
StateSelected:
StreetAddress1: xxxxxx
StreetAddress2:
Suffix:
Zip: xxxxxx

The is my reply.

Mr. xxxxxx,

The form-submission method of communicating is intended for people who have sensitive things they wish to discuss. It's for the sake of privacy.

Why didn't you simply submit public comments on the posts that made you sick and explain exactly what bothered you and why? Are you ashamed or not interested or both or what? Are you avoiding specificity, because when you've been specific in the past, you've come up embarrassed?

Did it make you feel better to tell me my ideas suck?

Which ideas suck exactly and why, xxxxxx? Does the idea of land for the poor to grow food for themselves and other poor people suck? If you think so, you've a really small, cold, hard heart. Do you think the idea of harmlessness sucks? What part of greed, violence, and sexual depravity do you defend against the giving and sharing economy, total pacifism, and sexual harmlessness and unselfishness? Do you think those latter things aren't loving or peaceful or truthful?

You're lost, xxxxxx. You're in the dark. Seek the light. If you want to be serious in exploring a meaningful theological position, I'll interact with you about it. If you just wanted to try to make yourself feel more self secure by imagining you've run me down, think again.

May God bless you with the real truth.

Tom Usher

——- Original Message ——-
From: xxxxxx
To: Tom Usher
Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 7:58 AM
Subject: Re: Form Submission

Tom,

I appreciate that you found the time from your busy life to write.

It was late when I wrote and I had no desire to get into details - I came across you site quite by accident and just looked over a few articles which I found disturbing.

I really need to go no further than to point out to you your letter below - it makes all sorts of suppositions concerning my life and my beliefs that you can have no possible inclinations about. There is a major flaw with the writer, I'm afraid, and I guess that's where the major flaws in the website emanate from.

Nothing too personal Tom, I don't know you and there is no reason for me to denigrate you personally, though I must admit if we carry this on much longer, I may have a change of opinion.

There have always been people with a innate talent to write and express their ideas - you are one of them. That is quite different from people who use their talent to speak the truth - I see you as someone who uses your words to justify your preconceived thoughts. You are not alone - one of many. Just not my cup of tea.

xxxxxx

xxxxxx,

Contrary to what you wrote, my reply made no suppositions concerning your life or beliefs. I asked questions. Read it again. You'll see you mischaracterized: Your flaw. Repent, xxxxxx.

Next time, consider what you're about to say or write. You might be able to avoid putting your foot in your mouth.

Another word to the wise, the cavalier, vague, even vacuous approach won't see you through. Give it up. Get right with God.

You used the term "preconceived." What before what? What do you think you know? Speaking of suppositions, what are you supposing, xxxxxx?

You don't think you've attempted to denigrate me personally? You call the revelation of Jesus Christ shoddy ideas. You say I have a major flaw of forming suppositions — a false charge by you. Yet, you say I'm the one who isn't writing the truth.

Really, xxxxxx, you're overly impressed with yourself.

I'm done with you until you repent. I hope you do.

Tom

——- Original Message ——-
From: Xxxxxx
To: Tom Usher
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 8:18 AM
Subject: Re: Form Submission

Your first letter:

"You're lost, Xxxxxx. You're in the dark. Seek the light. If you
want to be serious in exploring a meaningful theological position,
I'll interact with you about it. If you just wanted to try to make
yourself feel more self secure by imagining you've run me down,
think again."

And after I commented on it:

Contrary to what you wrote, my reply made no suppositions concerning
your life or beliefs.

Tom,

You might well be a decent fellow underneath it all, but my short
exposure to you has me convinced otherwise, for the time being anyway.

Perhaps I'll visit your site again (if I can find it) and perhaps I'll
discover I was wrong, in which case I would apologize. A tip however -
don't hold your breath (or do).

I don't say this to many people but in this case I believe it. I think
you are a bit of a dangerous person. Talented yes, but so was
_____________ (fill in the blank).

Good luck to you however.

Xxxxxx

Dear Xxxxxx,

It's apparent that you don't understand the meaning of the word "supposition."

You have made no point. I wasn't supposing anything. Anything I didn't know for sure, I asked about.

Do you think that my statement that you are lost and in the dark is a supposition? It is not.

The things you said about the message of Jesus shows that clearly. You think they are shoddy ideas. By Christian definition (God's definition) that makes you lost and in the dark.

That's the way it is.

Now, since you've offered up nothing to substantiate your allegations, I tell you now that I won't be responding to any further emails from you unless you repent.

May God bless you with the message of Jesus Christ.

Tom Usher

  • Subscribe
  • Tom Usher

    About Tom Usher

    Employment: 2008 - present, website developer and writer. 2015 - present, insurance broker. Education: Arizona State University, Bachelor of Science in Political Science. City University of Seattle, graduate studies in Public Administration. Volunteerism: 2007 - present, president of the Real Liberal Christian Church and Christian Commons Project.
    This entry was posted in Uncategorized. Bookmark the permalink.