Below is a comment I attempted to leave in full over on the post, "40 Christian Center Homes Burned," by ChiMeng Chang. UrbanSwirl. April 12, 2009.
The UrbanSwirl article starts out as follows:

Forty homes at the Alton Bay Christian Conference Center in New Hampshire burned down today. The cause of the fire is still under investigation. This fire occurred on a cold, windy Easter Sunday. Is this an act of arson? Or an act of God?

My comment is as follows:

Oh, they [the conservative, Republican so-called Christians] are wrong, but so are you.

It is so understandable how you believe (disbelieve) how you do, given that you are conflating certain (most, if not all) televangelists with Christians. They are not the same.

Look, Jesus suffered on the cross. What spirit did it? In one context, it's God. In another, it's Satan. On one hand, you have one spirit in a duality. On the other hand, you have totally separate spirits.

None of this is illogical. You've said it yourself in so many words that humans have puny minds. However, you are precluding a larger (the largest) mind being able to impart anything to the lesser. That's closing the door, isn't it?

So, do you want the answer to the ultimate question?

You actually believe that there is no connection between human emotion (flesh, spirit, and soul) and the total environment. You believe that nature is disconnected from human emotion/spirit. You're wrong.

The fact that a bunch of televangelist-types got around and prayed for rain and it didn't happen doesn't tell you that Christianity is wrong. It tells you that those people don't know what Christianity is. Hypocrisy is ruination. They openly tested faith and prayer, both things Jesus clearly says not to do.

When Jesus asked them (rhetorically) whether or not they believed he could ask for and receive an army of angels, he wasn't kidding. He didn't fall to that temptation, thank God, literally.

Try working on comprehending just one verse. You'll have to cross-reference to get it, but it will be worth the exercise:

Or those eighteen, upon whom the tower in Siloam fell, and slew them, think ye that they were sinners above all men that dwelt in Jerusalem? [The spirits cut it off here; interesting; signifies or just random nothingness?] – Jesus (Luke 13:4 KJV)

Now, if the televangelist-types and their duped followers and you (your huge clique) can ever agree on that one verse, I tell you the troubles of the world will be taken away.

"...sin = storm"; however, you are left with sorting out the root cause.

Look again, on the mundane level that you can understand if you try enough (not intended to be taken as coming out from arrogance), Global Warming is real. Human caused Climate Change is real. Greed, selfishness, unchecked lust in all forms, go hand-in-hand with trouble, including weather.

The hyper-greed of the oil and coal industries is a spirit. It is part of the spirit that must be overcome to avoid the radical storms. Surely you can see that. Surely you can make that connection.

It goes much deeper than that. If you can't grasp this much though, you're never going to get the deeper and deepest.

Peace and Whole Truth To You and To All,

Tom Usher
Real Liberal Christian Church


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