SOME KIND OF TALMUDIC GARBAGE ABOUT JESUS CHRIST

I posted the following on the Anti-Nazi group on Facebook:

Richard France,

You know nothing about Christianity.

I addressed your comment below where I posted the following:

"The Fascists are trying to stop the Churches from feeding the poor. Take a stand for righteousness. Visit the site and leave a supportive comment as soon as you can. Don't let any religious differences stand in the way on this, please.

"I'm not a Methodist, but I stand with their feeding the poor. I stand against the Fascist, who don't give a damn about the poor or about you.

"http://dminsfs8.posterous.com/a-decision-has-been-made-0"

Yet you didn't even acknowledge your total ignorance in your reply:

"interseting? its strange, but once messhiach has come, no more war, hatred or killing, so yes, not only what is jesus doing but why is he even there? nothing has changed, we still have wars, still have hatred, still have poor, unfed people !! no, jesus is greek, for of zues, zues being the ancient roman god.........of war!!!!! sorry folks, but there we are . respect"

Where I answered you with the following:

"The post was in line with anti-Nazi tactics. You want to discuss Jesus. I see that as verging off topic, but I never shy away from people who make false claims about Christ.

"God came before, but there was no instant end to evil. Jesus is a spirit who lives within those who agree with him. He hasn't left.

"Also, Jesus is the Greek for Joshua, Yahoshua that is "God Saves." If Yah is Zeus (Deus; God), then only human understanding of God's real character has been flawed.

"Lastly, it was Mars who was the Roman god of war. Jupiter and Zeus were more in line. May I suggest to you that you are out of your depth.

"It's not over.

"May Jesus bless you with the whole truth.

"Peace,

"Tom"

and with this:

"Transliterations:
"English = Jesus
"Latin = Iesus
"Greek = Iesous
"Hebrew = Yesua, Yehosua, etc., from which the English derives Joshua which is also Jesus"

Now I tell you this. YHVH was a God of war in the Old Testament. In addition, it was Romans who smashed Israel, and those Romans worshipped Mars. Are you saying then that Mars was YHVH or that Mars was stronger than YHVH?

Why claim that Jesus was for war when he never called for it but rather for its opposite?

Jesus came and enhanced the law to put it above the standard of Moses. Moses and Joshua called for and committed genocide while Jesus never once called down the wrath.

In that day, saith the LORD of hosts, shall the nail that is fastened in the sure place be removed, and be cut down, and fall; and the burden that was upon it shall be cut off: for the LORD hath spoken it. (Isaiah 22:25)

He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken. (Isaiah 53:8)

Of course, the Gemara (2nd part of the Babylonian Talmud) lies about it by claiming, "before the death of Jesus this proclamation was made for forty days; but no defense could be found." The claimed "proclamation" from the Mishna (1st part of the Babylonian Talmud) was as follows: "whosoever knows any thing of this man's innocence, let him come and declare it." That's a lame contrivance.

The high priest then asked Jesus of his disciples, and of his doctrine. Jesus answered him, "I spake openly to the world; I ever taught in the synagogue, and in the temple, whither the Jews always resort; and in secret have I said nothing. Why askest thou me? ask them which heard me, what I have said unto them: behold, they know what I said." (John 18:19-21)

It was a kangaroo court consistent with the prophecy and why, among other reasons, Rome was allowed also under Satan to smash the wicked in Jerusalem. Who can't see it?

Now after I told you, you were wrong that Jesus means Zeus, you come saying the following again:

"i know where all this nazi hatred came from, from the death of a wandering rabbi called jesus. he thought and his few followers thought he was messhiach come to save the world from all the roman occupation, he even set one his followers up to hand him over to the authorities, this one named `judas`, poor misguided fellow. study this, the name jesus comes from the greek, `of zues`, who is zues? zues was the ancient greek and roman god of WAR, no less. if messhiach has come, why then is there war, killing, theiving, hatred and starvation still in the world. no messiach has not come yet...sorry folks and also messiach will not claim to be god, because there is only one god, non before him....just to clarify, not just a religious thing, but fact, just look around the world you`re in, stop dreaming of death and the next world, etc etc etc !!!! GET A LIFE AND STOP HATING, would be a good start."

Why do you spread such utterly ridiculous lies about Jesus? Have you ever even read the Gospels?

And Jesus said unto them, "See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down." (Matthew 24:2)

Wake up, Richard. Stop spreading lies. Jesus was talking about the Romans coming to Jerusalem to level the Temple, which they did. Not only that, but you're still claiming Zeus was the Roman god of war even though I've instructed you that he was not.

Where were you educated? You tell people here not to burn books, but it appears that you've read very few of them yourself, at least ones of any merit. Try reading the whole Bible before you spout what you believe is biblical prophecy. You are way off.

You are here to run down Nazis, but you're being an embarrassment.

By the way, if you keep this up, you're defining yourself as a troll. The Wikipedia defines it very well: "In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts controversial, inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet)

If I post here and you add more such utterly ignorant and misleading comments incapable of being substantiated, I will delete those comments. Put up, or shut up is the common parlance.

The only way to be one with God is to be of the same spirit. If you don't understand that, it's not God's or Jesus's fault. You'll head the other way.

Lastly, have you never heard of the Second Coming of the same one, Jesus?

Peace and blessing of truth to everyone and to you too, Richard,

Tom Usher

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