On Robert L. Spitzer's Apology to What He Calls the "Gay Community"

Robert L. Spitzer's 2012 statements about his 2001 paper, "Can Some Gay Men and Lesbians Change Their Sexual Orientation?":

Basic Research Question. From the beginning it was: "can some version of reparative therapy enable individuals to change their sexual orientation from homosexual to heterosexual?" Realizing that the study design made it impossible to answer this question, I suggested that the study could be viewed as answering the question, "how do individuals undergoing reparative therapy describe changes in sexual orientation?" – a not very interesting question.

The Fatal Flaw in the Study – There was no way to judge the credibility of subject reports of change in sexual orientation. I offered several unconvincing reasons why it was reasonable to assume that the subject's reports of change were credible and not self-deception or outright lying. But the simple fact is that there was no way to determine if the subject's accounts of change were valid.

via Robert Spitzer psychiatrist - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

Question: How do studies of those who claim they cannot change meet that standard? How do homosexual-affirming psychologists or psychiatrist prove those homosexuals' statements are "credible and not self-deception or outright lying"? Answer: At this point, they cannot.

Nevertheless, they go on relying upon their equally limited studies while only trashing studies on the other side and trashing all of the people who openly testify that they have changed, per the Spitzer paper and many, many other reports. It's called hypocrisy -- the double-standard -- and it's evil.

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    • Guglielmo Marinaro

      "Question: How do studies of those who claim they cannot change meet that standard?"

      We don't need studies of those who claim they cannot change (and I can't offhand think of any, only studies of those who have tried to change, and not very many of those) to disbelieve in "conversion therapy", any more than we need studies of sick people who claim that Christian Science cannot cure them to disbelieve in Christian Science. The lack of convincing evidence for the efficacy of "conversion therapy" is sufficient reason for disbelieving in it. 

    • Homosexual-affirming therapists go by the anecdotal self-reporting of self-identified homosexuals to denounce that change is not only possible but happens. You claim that that standard is not acceptable when used by Reparative Therapists in supporting the efficacy of the treatment they offer. As I said, that's a double-standard.

      In addition, the homosexual activists at the APA cite Alfred Kinsey's work in support of the activists' view while Kinsey himself wrote that same-sex attraction is fluid, which view is widely still accepted within all of the major psychological and psychiatric associations.

      I am completely convince that RT works. There are thousands and thousands of people who have hugely diminished their same-sex attraction and have enhanced their opposite-sex attraction. Many over time have arrived where they report no same-sex desire or arousal, etc., at all. I know a number of them. That's good enough for me. If you can't accept it, that's your problem.

      The evidence offered by Reparative Therapists is every bit as valid as that offered for numerous other therapies accepted by the same homosexual activist who denounce RT. Are they prepared to turn and now denounce all therapies where the evidence is based upon self-reporting? They are not.