Jesus and Government

Jesus cleaned the temple. Was he reducing or even eliminating government, or was he reinstituting and expanding it? If heaven is anarchy, then why isn't everyone allowed in? Why are some thrown out for "selling/trading" the wrong things?


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And when they were come to Capernaum, they that received tribute money came to Peter, and said, Doth not your master pay tribute? He saith, Yes. And when he was come into the house, Jesus prevented him, saying, What thinkest thou, Simon? of whom do the kings of the earth take custom or tribute? of their own children, or of strangers? Peter saith unto him, Of strangers. Jesus saith unto him, Then are the children free. (Matthew 17:24-26)

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    Employment: 2008 - present, website developer and writer. 2015 - present, insurance broker. Education: Arizona State University, Bachelor of Science in Political Science. City University of Seattle, graduate studies in Public Administration. Volunteerism: 2007 - present, president of the Real Liberal Christian Church and Christian Commons Project.
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    • Tim Ricard

      Cleaning out the temple need not to have anything to do with government. He was dealing with the pervertion of ritual and abuse of power of religious authorities. In what way did Jesus even advocate the expansion of the secular government? When He came He neither supported imposition of  moral codes though civil law nor the use of civil authority to aid the poor. His only politics was not civil, but social and religious. He dealt more with social and religious leaders than civil leaders, He only met Harod and Pilate on the hour of His death.

      • As I pointed out to you concerning your duplicate comment on Facebook, God is government.

        You are misusing the term "government." All organizations that call themselves government are not of God, but all things of God are also of God's government. There was no God before there was God's government.

        What is the logical conclusion of all people doing as Jesus commanded? It is God's government on Earth in full and nothing but.

        This is not difficult to understand, Tim. Don't struggle against it. Doing that is futile.

        Your error lies in your limited understanding of terms.

        Roman religious authorities were state authorities. The Sanhedrin was the Roman-sanctioned religious authority. Jesus cleaned the temple of the money-changers, for one. He removed what ran contrary to God's perfect government. He removed Satanic government from within. If you argue against that, you'll be arguing in vain. You either accept it or be wrong. There's no other choice.

        The cleaning of the temple was about the whole Earth and Heaven, Tim. It was about then and everything between then and now. It was about everything before then from the beginning to the end. Don't limit it. Don't draw arbitrary, incorrect lines for the sake of your worldly ideology.

        Of course he supported the imposition of moral code. He imposed upon his followers the New Commandment among many others. His every word was and is law. It is also written, which is codification whether that agrees with your ideology or not. Of course his law is civil law. There are simply usurpers in places they ought not to be, such as Barack Obama and Ron Paul.

        You claim of Jesus that he didn't support "the use of civil authority to aid the poor." Since Jesus is your Lord on Earth and since his word is your law, how do then turn around saying that he wasn't or isn't now the civil authority and that all the others aren't false authorities raised up by arrogance against God and God's law and God's reign and government?

        When Jesus fed the 5,000, he was using the real civil authority in doing so and was aiding the poor on purpose. God's government fed them. God's government can eliminate all poverty on Earth, as it is in Heaven.

        You appear to not know what spirit you are of.

        You claim that "His only politics was not civil." His politics was entirely civil. Your problem is that you don't understand that "civil" runs throughout God's kingdom. You have drawn lines that preclude you.

        "And shall make him of quick understanding in the fear of the LORD: and he shall not judge after the sight of his eyes, neither reprove after the hearing of his ears: But with righteousness shall he judge the poor, and reprove with equity for the meek of the earth: and he shall smite the earth with the rod of his mouth, and with the breath of his lips shall he slay the wicked." (Isaiah 11:3-4 KJV)

        Concerning whom is Isaiah referring but the rightful ruler of all government here on Earth?

        Open your mind and heart, Tim. You've been misled.

        He dealt with all of the leaders of the world who "heard" his message. Some hated him and sought to eliminate him to steal his kingdom. They sought to rub out his words so his words would not continue reaching the hearts and minds of the many, changing government from evil to righteous. Don't be fooled.

        Herod and Pilate were far from ignorant about Jesus's open preaching and the gathering of many thousands to hear him.

        "And he said unto them, Go ye, and tell that fox, Behold, I cast out devils, and I do cures to day and to morrow, and the third day I shall be perfected." (Luke 13:32 KJV)

        He heard it, but he didn't do the right thing. You know that. You also know that the temple was leveled and what there was that had been considered "Jewish government" (which was false government) was disbanded entirely. Think.

        Peace, if you can accept it.