Wrong: "Yes, Christians and Muslims Worship the Same God (But Here's What That Means & Doesn’t)"

"Do Christians and Muslims worship the same God? Is God and Allah one-in-the-same? In the most primitive way, yes," claims Benjamin L. Corey. {Source: Yes, Christians and Muslims Worship the Same God (But Here’s What That Means & Doesn’t)}

That's wrong. It's also un-Christian teaching.

But he that denieth me before men shall be denied before the angels of God. (Luk 12:9) That's Jesus speaking there. The Muslims, according to Jesus, are denied by Jesus to God the Father of Jesus and His angels. But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven. (Mat 10:33)

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Mohammed is denied. He is rejected for not having worshiped the right one as God.

Let's get into this a step further. The God of Abraham was/is God Most High, God among other divinities. So was/is Zeus. I could make this explanation really long, but I've already done that elsewhere.

Zeus was God to the Greeks and described with attributes some of which literally fit and others that don't fit with the God of Jesus Christ. Did Jesus worship Zeus? Personally, I think that's a context too far, but it would be a good starting place in proselytizing to a Zeus worshiper of the time.

Is Allah the same object as the God of Jesus Christ, the same "substance," as used in the Christian creed, just because "Allah" means god in Arabic? No.

The reason it is not is because of the attributes attributed that make up the concept of the god of the Muslims (lower case "god" if one believes that, that god, "Allah," is a pagan deity).

This is all an extremely profound subject. People can study it for a lifetime and not get it right.

I do not worship the God or god of the Muslims. Jesus Christ is the son of my God. The Muslim's worship something that has no such son. They worship something I can't be a son of.

No, the deity of Islam is definitely not the same essence and spirit that is the God of Jesus and Jesus' father and my father in Heaven.

"Primitive" is the wrong word. Fundamental is the right word. In the most fundamental way, the Allah of the Muslims is not the Elohim and YHVH of Jesus the Christ, the son of God.

The same thing applies to those particular religious Jews who reject Jesus. Their  Elohim and YHVH are down a different path.

That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him. (Joh 5:23)

Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. (Joh 14:6)

What about Abraham, did he worship the God of Jesus? Yes he did but without the refining knowledge of God imparted to us by Jesus. Had he come chronologically (in our worldly sense of the term) after Jesus on the Earth and heard Jesus's teachings and rejected them, then the one he, Abraham, would have been referring to as God would, in fact, have been a different one and not the God of Jesus.

This is part of the reason Paul could discuss God with the Romans where the Romans were not confused by the concept of Jupiter (the Roman's version of Zeus).

You may find the following interesting:

... the Stoic God is immanent throughout the whole of creation and directs its development down to the smallest detail. God is identical with one of the two ungenerated and indestructible first principles (archai) of the universe. One principle is matter which they regard as utterly unqualified and inert. It is that which is acted upon. God is identified with an eternal reason (logos, Diog. Laert. 44B ) or intelligent designing fire (Aetius, 46A) which structures matter in accordance with Its plan. This plan is enacted time and time again, beginning from a state in which all is fire, through the generation of the elements, to the creation of the world we are familiar with, and eventually back to fire in a cycle of endless recurrence. The designing fire of the conflagration is likened to a sperm which contains the principles or stories of all the things which will subsequently develop (Aristocles in Eusebius, 46G). Under this guise, God is also called ‘fate.’ It is important to realise that the Stoic God does not craft its world in accordance with its plan from the outside, as the demiurge in Plato's Timaeus is described as doing. Rather, the history of the universe is determined by God's activity internal to it, shaping it with its differentiated characteristics. The biological conception of God as a kind of living heat or seed from which things grow seems to be fully intended. The further identification of God with pneuma or breath may have its origins in medical theories of the Hellenistic period. See Baltzly (2003). [source]

There's plenty of starting ground there to begin a discussion about the God of Jesus Christ with the Roman Stoic's of Jesus's time and shortly after.

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