Government, as with liberal (Democrat, etc.) and conservative (Republican, etc.), is a term that has been distorted. God's Heaven is governed afterall. What we as Christians must do is be governed by God's highest calling to us.
The current worldly government of the U.S. is a hodgepodge that in the end comes down to violent force. The "democrats" (the U.S. being a democracy, albeit ostensibly a limited, representational one – really a plutocracy in practice – think banksters) will make the minority and even majority do what it, the democracy orders, whether or not the order is righteous. That democracy will force souls to "accept" and "confirm" iniquitous behavior simply because that democracy is willing to use violence against those whose conscience and God rightly informs them of the truth about the harmfulness of certain tentatively "democratically protected" (read coerced) iniquitous behaviors. The whole system is built upon shortsightedness.
It insists that human beings cannot be reasoned with or helped by the rest of us while we are being as harmless as doves are to human beings.
Wait though until the wicked, mad scientists design evil doves just to "prove" their point, as with the designer fruit flies that terrorized their female counterparts and engaged in orgiastic homosexual frenzy that was utter insanity.
To use those scientists point to prove that homosexuality is genetic beyond the ability of the human to choose otherwise is tantamount to claiming that whatever behavior they can design into any creature ought to be "protected" behavior. Frankly, the behavior of those scientists in this case is already beyond the pale itself. Freedom is not the freedom to do whatever one wants with other creatures. Tools in hand, I too could take each of them and turn him or her into a monster. That would not mean I have that right or that their monstrous behavior should then be condoned or promoted. I don't want to use those tools in that way and neither should anyone else.
This does not mean that we or I should not have compassion for the "designed" ones. The brutalized junkyard dog is not to blame for his nastiness. Of course, the nasty junkyard owner who brutalized the dog to make it untrusting and more violent than its nature also is the product of treatment at the hands of his fellow human beings. The lesson is in overcoming such ill-treatment so that the evil stops with us and we don't spread it (have it come out from us defiling us, as Jesus correctly said).
Mark 7:20 KJVR And he said, That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man.
So, there is the worldly government with the vile struggling against the hoarders for self. This is the case as if there is no other choice but there is. Christianity is neither vile nor hoarding for self. This is where the vile is currently liberal and the greedy is currently conservative. There are souls who know this even though they may not yet be well versed enough to fully articulate it. There are souls who don't want to be either vile or greedy.
The churl in Isaiah is he who works to acquire and amass for the time remaining on Earth in this life beyond which he sees nothing. He may give some of it away; but more often than not, he does that for a show and for the sake of what his ego gets out of it when others say what a marvelous fellow he is. The right way to be is to work to acquire and amass for the sake of everyone and not to amass in some unbalanced way that is while others within the reasonable vicinity are going hungry. This is why Isaiah said that God imparted to him that we are to deal our bread to the hungry.
Isaiah 58:7 KJVR Is it not to deal thy bread to the hungry, and that thou bring the poor that are cast out to thy house? when thou seest the naked, that thou cover him; and that thou hide not thyself from thine own flesh?
God is alive and knows what we are doing and not doing. If we have a heart to be not only harmless but truly beneficial to all, including those who have been ill-treated into being monstrous killers (such as many in the U.S. military), then God will grant what is rightly consistent with that spirit.
This is a difficult sticking point for many, as they want what is rightly consistent with righteousness before they themselves are willing to even attempt to be righteous and to stick with it. "Give us a sign, or we say you're a fake."
Read Isaiah directly on it to see what you can make of it straight from him. I do go into it to some degree on this website, but you may not wish to be prejudiced before reading Isaiah first. Coming to see it through what God gives you directly often gives a more lasting impression and trains up the mind to see yet more in that way.
Isaiah 32:1-8 KJV Behold, a king shall reign in righteousness, and princes shall rule in judgment. (2) And a man shall be as an hiding place from the wind, and a covert from the tempest; as rivers of water in a dry place, as the shadow of a great rock in a weary land. (3) And the eyes of them that see shall not be dim, and the ears of them that hear shall hearken. (4) The heart also of the rash shall understand knowledge, and the tongue of the stammerers shall be ready to speak plainly. (5) The vile person shall be no more called liberal, nor the churl said to be bountiful. (6) For the vile person will speak villany, and his heart will work iniquity, to practise hypocrisy, and to utter error against the LORD, to make empty the soul of the hungry, and he will cause the drink of the thirsty to fail. (7) The instruments also of the churl are evil: he deviseth wicked devices to destroy the poor with lying words, even when the needy speaketh right. (8) But the liberal deviseth liberal things; and by liberal things shall he stand.
Isaiah is cross-referenced by me to the story of David and Abigail and her husband, the churlish Nabal.
Samuel 25:1-42 KJV And Samuel died; and all the Israelites were gathered together, and lamented him, and buried him in his house at Ramah. And David arose, and went down to the wilderness of Paran. (2) And there was a man in Maon, whose possessions were in Carmel; and the man was very great, and he had three thousand sheep, and a thousand goats: and he was shearing his sheep in Carmel. (3) Now the name of the man was Nabal; and the name of his wife Abigail: and she was a woman of good understanding, and of a beautiful countenance: but the man was churlish and evil in his doings; and he was of the house of Caleb. (4) And David heard in the wilderness that Nabal did shear his sheep. (5) And David sent out ten young men, and David said unto the young men, Get you up to Carmel, and go to Nabal, and greet him in my name: (6) And thus shall ye say to him that liveth in prosperity, Peace be both to thee, and peace be to thine house, and peace be unto all that thou hast. (7) And now I have heard that thou hast shearers: now thy shepherds which were with us, we hurt them not, neither was there ought missing unto them, all the while they were in Carmel. (8) Ask thy young men, and they will shew thee. Wherefore let the young men find favour in thine eyes: for we come in a good day: give, I pray thee, whatsoever cometh to thine hand unto thy servants, and to thy son David. (9) And when David's young men came, they spake to Nabal according to all those words in the name of David, and ceased. (10) And Nabal answered David's servants, and said, Who is David? and who is the son of Jesse? there be many servants now a days that break away every man from his master. (11) Shall I then take my bread, and my water, and my flesh that I have killed for my shearers, and give it unto men, whom I know not whence they be? (12) So David's young men turned their way, and went again, and came and told him all those sayings. (13) And David said unto his men, Gird ye on every man his sword. And they girded on every man his sword; and David also girded on his sword: and there went up after David about four hundred men; and two hundred abode by the stuff. (14) But one of the young men told Abigail, Nabal's wife, saying, Behold, David sent messengers out of the wilderness to salute our master; and he railed on them. (15) But the men were very good unto us, and we were not hurt, neither missed we any thing, as long as we were conversant with them, when we were in the fields: (16) They were a wall unto us both by night and day, all the while we were with them keeping the sheep. (17) Now therefore know and consider what thou wilt do; for evil is determined against our master, and against all his household: for he is such a son of Belial, that a man cannot speak to him. (18) Then Abigail made haste, and took two hundred loaves, and two bottles of wine, and five sheep ready dressed, and five measures of parched corn, and an hundred clusters of raisins, and two hundred cakes of figs, and laid them on asses. (19) And she said unto her servants, Go on before me; behold, I come after you. But she told not her husband Nabal. (20) And it was so, as she rode on the ass, that she came down by the covert of the hill, and, behold, David and his men came down against her; and she met them. (21) Now David had said, Surely in vain have I kept all that this fellow hath in the wilderness, so that nothing was missed of all that pertained unto him: and he hath requited me evil for good. (22) So and more also do God unto the enemies of David, if I leave of all that pertain to him by the morning light any that pisseth against the wall. (23) And when Abigail saw David, she hasted, and lighted off the ass, and fell before David on her face, and bowed herself to the ground, (24) And fell at his feet, and said, Upon me, my lord, upon me let this iniquity be: and let thine handmaid, I pray thee, speak in thine audience, and hear the words of thine handmaid. (25) Let not my lord, I pray thee, regard this man of Belial, even Nabal: for as his name is, so is he; Nabal is his name, and folly is with him: but I thine handmaid saw not the young men of my lord, whom thou didst send. (26) Now therefore, my lord, as the LORD liveth, and as thy soul liveth, seeing the LORD hath withholden thee from coming to shed blood, and from avenging thyself with thine own hand, now let thine enemies, and they that seek evil to my lord, be as Nabal. (27) And now this blessing which thine handmaid hath brought unto my lord, let it even be given unto the young men that follow my lord. (28) I pray thee, forgive the trespass of thine handmaid: for the LORD will certainly make my lord a sure house; because my lord fighteth the battles of the LORD, and evil hath not been found in thee all thy days. (29) Yet a man is risen to pursue thee, and to seek thy soul: but the soul of my lord shall be bound in the bundle of life with the LORD thy God; and the souls of thine enemies, them shall he sling out, as out of the middle of a sling. (30) And it shall come to pass, when the LORD shall have done to my lord according to all the good that he hath spoken concerning thee, and shall have appointed thee ruler over Israel; (31) That this shall be no grief unto thee, nor offence of heart unto my lord, either that thou hast shed blood causeless, or that my lord hath avenged himself: but when the LORD shall have dealt well with my lord, then remember thine handmaid. (32) And David said to Abigail, Blessed be the LORD God of Israel, which sent thee this day to meet me: (33) And blessed be thy advice, and blessed be thou, which hast kept me this day from coming to shed blood, and from avenging myself with mine own hand. (34) For in very deed, as the LORD God of Israel liveth, which hath kept me back from hurting thee, except thou hadst hasted and come to meet me, surely there had not been left unto Nabal by the morning light any that pisseth against the wall. (35) So David received of her hand that which she had brought him, and said unto her, Go up in peace to thine house; see, I have hearkened to thy voice, and have accepted thy person. (36) And Abigail came to Nabal; and, behold, he held a feast in his house, like the feast of a king; and Nabal's heart was merry within him, for he was very drunken: wherefore she told him nothing, less or more, until the morning light. (37) But it came to pass in the morning, when the wine was gone out of Nabal, and his wife had told him these things, that his heart died within him, and he became as a stone. (38) And it came to pass about ten days after, that the LORD smote Nabal, that he died. (39) And when David heard that Nabal was dead, he said, Blessed be the LORD, that hath pleaded the cause of my reproach from the hand of Nabal, and hath kept his servant from evil: for the LORD hath returned the wickedness of Nabal upon his own head. And David sent and communed with Abigail, to take her to him to wife. (40) And when the servants of David were come to Abigail to Carmel, they spake unto her, saying, David sent us unto thee, to take thee to him to wife. (41) And she arose, and bowed herself on her face to the earth, and said, Behold, let thine handmaid be a servant to wash the feet of the servants of my lord. (42) And Abigail hasted, and arose, and rode upon an ass, with five damsels of hers that went after her; and she went after the messengers of David, and became his wife.
That's only scratching the surface of this subject.
Of course, any question or comment you wish to put to me, I'll do my best to address as the Spirit moves.
I would like to thank my new, young friend Noah (whom I won't further identify here – I leave that to him if he is so moved – all things in their time) for saying that he agrees with everything I've said so far to him. He is wise beyond his years to qualify with the words "so far." I don't say in looking forward to a time or issue where we part. I say he is wise with God in mind where each of us must approach God without allowing anyone else lying down before us as an angry dog in the manger trying to keep us from partaking of what he, the selfish dog, cannot.
As for "government" as it is commonly misused today, I don't vote in secular elections anymore. The "Silent Majority" mass movement to register and to convince Christians to vote for secular leaders was a grave error.
The wicked desires of many were wrapped up in other desirable ideas as a cover. The greedy and violent and depraved from their pulpits duped masses of would-be Christians into conflating that which does not go together, namely Christianity and the government of the United States of America or any of its secular, federally subordinate governmental entities. Even if the confederates were to have their way, those entities would still be governments of coercion rather than governments of righteous conscience.
Now many Christians in name seek to use the violently coercive power of the worldly government even against their fellows who also profess Christianity but of the real kind that is the pacifist kind, as Jesus was a pacifist without doubt even when he cleaned the temple. He ordered them out of his house (his voluntary place but with clear rules of behavior) without harming a soul (no drawing of blood or threatening to kill or imprison or torture anyone). There's a difference between what Jesus did and making Satanic war on people. There is justice afterall. Satan's realm is not voluntary acceptance of righteousness. It is forced iniquity.
If we all leave the vengeance to God, there won't be any vengeance. Jesus knew this and still does. I just said it is all.
Now, I entitled this post, "WORLDLY GOVERNMENT VERSUS REAL GOVERNMENT." There is to come a time when world government is the real government of which I've just written in this post. At that time, the government will no longer be worldly. It will be after the New World Order of those of the worldly government too. That false-hearted New World Order is coming but will fail. It must come only to be displaced by the real New World Order that is the New Heaven and New Earth conflated (the people coming together in righteousness – the real law written on their hearts) of which Jesus speaks.
If you want to be a part of bringing in the real New World Order even while others are conspiring and conjuring up their false and doomed New World Order, then help to bring forth the Christian Commons. Do so in patience and perseverance and in the certain knowledge that death of righteous souls is escape. We do and will live the real life. That's the promise of God and Jesus. Jesus was not and is not a liar. He died and lives. He suffered and died to tell you the truth, or do you trust those who murdered him? Perhaps you think there's yet another choice. There is not. He told the one and only truth.
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And when they were come to Capernaum, they that received tribute money came to Peter, and said, Doth not your master pay tribute? He saith, Yes. And when he was come into the house, Jesus prevented him, saying, What thinkest thou, Simon? of whom do the kings of the earth take custom or tribute? of their own children, or of strangers? Peter saith unto him, Of strangers. Jesus saith unto him, Then are the children free. (Matthew 17:24-26)