UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA STUDENT TASED AT JOHN KERRY SPEECH
The video is intense, considering the forum.
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The video raises innumerable issues.
Forum rules have been modified since the Nixon years to prevent enlightening questions. It has had a dampening and even chilling effect on what is termed free speech and democratic debate. Many people believe that the only way to get points raised is via drawing attention through what is called civil disobedience. Of course, the question arises: Under a democracy, the government is only legitimate when it is by the consent of the governed, so just who has ultimate civil authority and who is truly being disobedient? According to the U.S. Constitution, all un-enumerated powers still rest in the people. Were the police acting in accordance with both the spirit and letter of the Constitution—preserving it?
The video also raises the issue of excessive force and police brutality. The reason the police use such force is for its future deterrent effect. If people can be sufficiently intimidated and made to fear the police, their control is greater. However, it is not good for community relations. If they had hustled the youth out (if he insisted upon monopolizing the forum) and let him go, it would have been better (not perfect, but better). Tasers are sadistic. They do not serve to defuse a situation.
The young man (Andrew Meyer, 21, a student in the College of Journalism and Communications) who was tased and arrested used profanity. This does not help his cause, although some young people find it fashionable and something with which they can identify. His infractions pale though next to how the situation was butchered by the authorities.
In addition to the issues above, the young man did raise important points. There was election rigging of the 2004 U.S. presidential election. John Kerry did win the election. George W. Bush was not elected fairly and squarely. Enough voters illegally and systematically were disenfranchised under the criminal conspiracy to have secured the election for Kerry.
An important question though concerns the premature election concession by Kerry, especially in light of the immediately preceding presidential election that was given to George W. Bush by Republican appointed Supreme Court justices, against all proper legal procedures.
Coupled with no impeachment hearings against George W. Bush for all of his blatant lies and cover-ups, war crimes, crimes against humanity, violations of the Bill of Rights, and the rest, along with the fact that both Bush and Kerry were/are members of the secret society at Yale known as Skull and Bones, and the inquisitive young man questions whether the conspiracy crosses party lines.
Many people believe that there is little to no difference between the ruling elite at the top of each party. They believe that the two-party system is just a way for the one party to rule under the guise of diversity of choice. They believe, as does the Real Liberal Christian Church, that the wealthy as a class/families rule (plutocracy; oligarchy) and choose the winners behind closed doors and that, therefore, the democracy is truly just ostensible.
Conspiracy:
Joseph Goebbels was the propaganda minister for Nazi Germany, which was an amazing propaganda machine but nothing compare to America's, which has been the best (worst in the divine sense) in history. Goebbels said, "What you want in a media system is ostensible diversity that conceals an actual uniformity." The same applies to the whole political system.
Another top Nazi, Hermann Goering (also: Hermann Göring), said, "…the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country."
It is unfortunate that the status quo is such that people feel compelled to extreme boldness in order for legitimate questions to be put before the people and leaders. Jesus faced the same situation. His Apostles too were told (ordered) to stop preaching Jesus's message. Of all of them, apparently only John wasn't martyred. Think about it. The whole system is corrupt, upside down, and inside out. That's why Jesus overturned the tables of the money changers. You can too by joining the Real Christian Commons Project. See The Plan and What an Article in the Wikipedia Covering the Real Liberal Christian Church Might Look Like for starters.
Many people seem to care about what happened to this young man: Some pro, some con, some mixed, some just reporting:
http://geoffmyers.net/blog/?p=19
http://www.chitlinsmash.com/?p=162
http://animamrecro.wordpress.com/2007/09 /17/uf-student-tasered-by-cops-at-kerry -speech/
http://michellemalkin.com/2007/09/17/stu dent-tasered-at-john-kerry-forum/
http://disinter.wordpress.com/2007/09/17 /kid-gets-arrested-for-asking-john-kerr y-a-question/
http://www.boontdusties.com/journal/2007 /09/18/uf-student-tasered-at-john-kerry -speech/
http://opit.wordpress.com/2007/09/17/pag eflakes-finds/
http://billcork.wordpress.com/2007/09/17 /john-kerrys-america/
http://www.theodoresworld.net/archives/2 007/09/police_use_taser_on_uf_student.ht ml
http://haloscan.com/tb/mwisse/Question_K erry__get_tasered
http://susiemadrak.com/2007/09/17/22/46/ lesson-1-censor-yourself/
http://billcork.wordpress.com/2007/09/17 /john-kerrys-america/
http://opinionist.com/2007/09/18/excessi ve-use-of-force-at-kerry-meeting-studen- tasered/
http://mrebman.info-blogs.com/?p=10168
http://cashoutcurse.com/?p=194
http://infidelsarecool.com/2007/09/17/uf -student-gets-tasered-at-john-kerry-spee ch/
http://pebkac.homelinux.net/2007/09/18/l inks-for-2007-09-18/
http://www.mansbags.com/23061/uf-student -tasered-at-john-kerry-speech/
http://economics.info-blogs.com/fl-stude nt-tasered-after-asking-john-kerry-a-que stion/
http://eclecticiste.typepad.com/the_ecle cticiste/2007/09/this-is-america.html
http://www.thehotjoints.com/2007/09/18/u f-student-tasered-at-john-kerry-speech-h ilarious-video
Tom Usher
Standing Comment, all posts and pages:
To all homosexuals and their supporters, condoners, promoters, accepters, confirmers, and the like:
Unless you have something completely new that hasn't already been refuted, don't bother. It won't show up.
Rehashing what has already been refuted is a waste of everyone's time.
I'm not interested in casting pearls before swine, giving the children's bread to the dogs, or rebuking a forever scorner.
Learn or go away: There is zero wisdom in homosexuality. Homosexuality is wrong. Nothing any homosexual or anyone else can say or do will alter it. No one needs the Bible to know it either. It's prima facie. There's no such thing as an unrepentant-homosexual Christian. There never has been and never will be. That's the way of it. If you don't like it, change.
Do site searches on the various topics concerning homosexuality to determine if your "point" has already been handled. Currently, I provide three different search methods. The "WordPress" search is still the most thorough.
The same can be done regarding militarism, capitalism, coercion, and many other main issues and themes.
TREATMENT, RUDENESS, POLITENESS, OFFENSE, TRUTH
Many times over the course of this website's existence, I've had commentators complain about how I've treated them and/or others. Much less frequently has anyone taken exception to those commentator's comments. I assume that's because for one, I appear to be holding my own.
Often, I have raised the fact that Jesus called certain people "serpents." I've often also mentioned how he cleaned the temple with whip in hand, not that he used it on anyone. It certainly doesn't say that he did, and neither was he charged with it in the kangaroo court of the serpents who ended up murdering him by proxy just for, among other wonderful things, speaking out and speaking truth.
If I say that those who are engaged in serpentine behavior are the New Testament "serpents," then why take offense at my saying it rather than standing with Jesus and me about it?
If others don't like it that I treat others or them the way I have in this regard, why don't they take it up with the serpents and/or their own consciences and God?
If I wanted to catch flies, I'd use honey. I don't want flies on this level. Human beings aren't to be on the level of flies. If the truth is bitter as vinegar, then ask yourself why and learn to taste it as sweet but not sickeningly so. Why attack the message and messenger, as the serpents did, and become a serpent by so doing?
The issue is not "name calling" on some bratty, childish level. When Jesus said "serpents," he was not being as a brat. His level was completely adult to adults and children. He dared say that the children understood the clear and plain truth before the adults who, afterall, had been abused and socialized by the serpents. He still calls adults back. Those who hear him and know his voice (truth) turn around and do the other required things together as well.
What is it for a human being to be more serpentine or reptilian than what God initially gave? What was and remains Jesus's point? What is the reptilian brain versus the vastly higher human brain with its cerebral cortex and frontal and temporal lobes and specific areas of altruistic sentiments and abilities? What are those higher areas before they are damaged, before the communication pathways to them and between them are diminished by evil that is always some form of abuse? How are those pathways reestablished or created where they never were in this fleshly life?
The snake lays its eggs. The eggs hatch. The snake parent doesn't nurture or raise the offspring. It's every snake for itself. Human parents and family are not designed to be that way. Humans hand down the learning of nurturing. Many people get better training than do others, and many people have a greater aptitude for learning and predisposition for the higher and highest virtues. Many are less abused. People can change for the better and best though, no matter where the starting point. They only can't if they don't — if they reject it.
Snakes, of course, also come in venomous varieties and in strangling varieties, etc., such that they have been attackers and even devourers of humans for eons, guilty and innocent alike.
Now, Jesus knew that most people could relate to what were, and still are, largely considered "good" parenting skills and "good" "family" relations. He regularly used those concepts to get people to consider the wider implications for the whole of humanity. He did know that many would refuse. He let them go. He didn't demand secular or false-religion legislation to rein them in with threats of violence and imprisonment. He was not and is not coercive. Even his Church is a voluntary place to be.
What he still teaches (through the written words in the New Testament and as those connect with the Old and also teaches through the Holy Spirit he definitely sent as he said he would) is, among many other things, that "good" is vastly better than has been commonly accepted and that real "family" is everyone left after all the rest have rejected the higher and highest good. He raised the standards far above the Old Testament and far above the "modern" standard.
The American Empire and the American people in general aren't even touching the hem of his garment, let alone even attempting to stand upright and side-by-side with him.
I point out that Jesus was, and is, a Real Liberal Christian. He is the one who brought back this censored truth that is the light. After he had spoken it and lived it and was murdered for doing so, the censors set about to re-censor it and did. They couldn't put it out though — couldn't completely extinguish the truth. I wouldn't be saying it now again with all credit to God, just as Jesus, if they had been able to completely block it.
I point out that each of those terms ("real," "liberal," and "Christian," along with "Church") are actually redundant terms — synonyms that are so close that they become one. The term "liberal" here is not the common usage, which common usage is a deliberate corruption of the term. There is no harm in real liberalism. There is no vileness in it. There is only beneficence. "Real" may be understood as the opposite of false-hearted, dark side, and dead of the Holy Spirit. Christian is both real and liberal in those senses. To arrive at living, doing, being those full senses requires what Jesus lives, does, and is in the highest. Finally, the Church is the whole.
Who are they who want to drag it down, censor it, work against it, lessen it, ignore it, etc.? Well, who sides with Jesus and who sides against him? Did the serpents side with him then? Do they now?
We call war-mongers "hawks." We call "peacemakers" blessed and "doves." Why do the hawks not take offense at "hawks" but do take offense at "serpents"? "Hawks" is not yet as telling to the general public, but I must tell you that all hawks are serpents. Why do some say, "Greed is good" but take offense at "serpents"? I tell you there is no difference between the selfish and the serpents. Why do people take offense at serpents when they do not take offense at homosexuality? I tell you the homosexual spirit also comes out from the dark side. It is a choice. It is harmful. Many are abused with it. Many never overcome it. Their very brain matter is transformed by it. Then they claim it is good when it remains confusion and definitely wrong and harmful.
Many arguments were put forth in support of tolerance. I understood that Jesus "tolerated," as in he did not execute wrath but rather told the truth and let the blind follow the blind (blind to the truth) into the ditch of their own making. I have watched while the movement has been corrupted into condoning what was once only to be tolerated. I have watched further while it has moved from condoning to promoting even to the youngest children to get to them before the truth does. I have seen evil at work, and I sound the alarm. I face censorship and other negative reactions for it.
As the American Empire claims to be a light to the world, it murders innocent babies by Hellfire missiles fired from predator drones controlled by armchair, video-gaming serpents in uniform. It tortures those who are not even suspects. It spies on its own without even probable cause or reasonable suspicion. It lies its way into wars for spoils and control. It neglects its poor, whom it treads down for the sakes of the superrich — for the sake of the massive flow of mammon from the bottom up (no trickledown — trickledown is a farce and always has been). All is claimed to be okay in America though — that America is headed in the right direction — because soon, even "don't tell, don't ask" will be a thing of the quaint past and homosexuals may be able to sleep together and have sex in the barracks with the "blessing" of the Empire while they practice murdering the innocent for the sake of homosexual, greedy plutocrats who own them and who, in turn, are owned by the dark-side spirit named by God and Jesus as Satan.
Whose side are you on? I speak truth to warn. I don't tell the secular government what to do other than occasionally to say what at least would be less hypocritical within their fallen, unenlightened system. I do so for spiritual reasons. What I want is the Christian Commons.
Now, if you submit a comment:
What you write here against the Real Liberal Christian Church founded by Jesus Christ will mark you in the Biblical sense unless you show that you have turned and are repenting in time to escape the damnation of your own choosing. That's the way of it. Don't be tempted by the devil to stand opposed to the call of righteousness. Overcome such evil temptation. Help others to help yet others to come to righteous behavior through-and-through.
Check out how even after reading this, people will still take it out of context and twist it to an evil end.