Perhaps I shouldn't have laughed, but when you said, "voila, a moderator hit the delete button," I did laugh out loud. It's the illogical that's always funny. We laugh at illogic. It's hardwired for sanity.

Some things though others find extremely funny don't even get a slight smile out of me but rather strong feelings of disapproval for the callousness that some enjoy so.

I do feel for that blog owner with one (?) non-English post; although, the moderator was simply following clearly stated rules. I take it that your point is that the moderator should have first contacted the blog owner with a time-sensitive reminder about the rule and that if the offending post is still up after some time frame, then the blog would be removed. There should also be a statement that as soon as the "offending" post is removed, the blog will be reinstated.

These are fairly common sense steps aren't they? They simply require putting oneself in the various shoes all the way around.

Anyway, what about blogs that use translator plugins? I did myself up until just several days ago. I never even thought about Entrecard and that translator. Maybe they covered that issued. Translated pages are there in English afterall.

The most important mundane thing right now is getting a clear, public answer concerning exactly what material on EuroYank's site was seen as grounds for removal.

If Entrecard won't declare that, Entrecard is a coward. It doesn't have the courage of it's convictions. You see, when we know what it was, well ... think about what it will reveal.

Peace,

Tom

Yes, I knew you are a moderator from what you've written on your blog (where I have often dropped Entrecards).

Let me say that if EuroYank doesn't have grounds for a lawsuit at this point, it is not for the reason you cited. If he doesn't have grounds, it's because he hasn't exercised his full rights and responsibilities. I can't speak to his communications, requests, etc., concerning and with Entrecard. Perhaps officially and formally he's requested reinstatement. Perhaps he's requested to know exactly the offending material. Perhaps he's pointed out to Entrecard that Entrecard is offending as many as it thinks it is "valuing." EuroYank is no slouch, in case you haven't discerned that. He's vastly more intelligent than are those I've seen attacking him. Frankly, he's annoyed with stupidity. I know he has to rise above that. Some souls are just too wicked to enter Heaven, and no amount of EuroYank's blogging and their reading and viewing and listening, etc., is going to help them. On some level, I know EuroYank knows that. I'm just saying it here to help him resign himself to it. He wanted to help save the world. Well, he has helped. He should hear that, and I'm saying it for that reason.

I read his back and forth with the 18-year-old Taiwanese-American (self-described). That young man misunderstood, as did many others who read that thread. EuroYank was being extremely sarcastic with him, testing him. It was obvious though that EuroYank made clear that race and ethnicity is not the issue — it's rather ideology and actions. I don't hold with EuroYank's "lack of" tact with the young man (who by the way incorrectly thinks EuroYank is 43 years old when he is in fact in his late 50's). I am not though going to claim that that lack of tact offended me. It didn't. It only concerned me for the very fact that so many people don't know how to get passed such things to the underlying debate that really matters. It's a judgment call. There are people who hate it that I've used the term "serpent" exactly as Jesus used it in discussing hypocrites, including present-day Pharisees, who are the Talmudic rabbinists. If that's hate-speech, then Jesus practiced hate-speech, which makes it okay. Follow?

Now, as for the so-called private enterprise argument and a restaurant being able to decide whom that restaurant will serve, you are flat wrong. Public restaurants do not have the legal right to refuse service on account of status when that status is protected under the Constitution. The signs that said, "We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone" were taken down. There is no public business in the U.S. that can legally discriminate on account of race, color, creed, sex, age (with some exceptions), and some are reaching for sexual orientation (attempting to put it on par or above freedom of religion). If I've missed any, forgive me.

A restaurant open to the general public does not have the legal right to tell Black people to leave on account of their simply being Black people. I don't know who has been filling you full of a load of dung concerning Constitutional law, but clearly you've been severely misled.

Let me also clear up another of your misconceptions. You and I don't have a common enemy guilty of restricting freedom of private individuals to do as they please with their property. Matt, take a look around here. I know you've been here before. I'm a communist, Matt. Christianity is communism but not Marxism. I'm libertarian only in that I oppose coercion. I am a total pacifist too. I don't believe in private property as defined by capitalists. Jesus didn't hold with it. We have possessions that belong to God. God is one with all souls who are one with God. God is not the god of the religion you have come to hate, which I too hate but from a different level of knowledge.

Furthermore, I don't characterize myself as a "conspiracy nut." Although, I realize you don't mean it literally. There is nothing nutty (crazy or idiotic) about knowing that a plutocracy rules the worldly world. It is rather a requirement for sanity to know it. Sanity is knowing the difference between right and wrong, and the plutocrats are dead wrong (insanely self-centered and harmful).

"...jumping to conclusions...." I know that is not the problem on this end. That's what happened at Entrecard, prima facie. Knee-jerk reactions rather than wanting truth is the problem.

Anyway, Matt, I know you are struggling with many issues. You need to separate God from the religion in which you were raised. They aren't the same thing. Many of the issues you have are with the Old Testament, under-interpreted God or god (case depending upon context). When you went to questioning, you didn't focus on Jesus. Your objections aren't with Jesus that I've seen anyway.

So, report back your findings about EuroYank's situation and Entrecard's position.

We'll jump to the conclusion that you won't reveal what they want to remain "internal," which is their prerogative until the courts say otherwise or unless they are prepared to face contempt citations and time in jail on "principle."

Frankly, they should be up front with EuroYank, tell him what they want changed to reinstate him, and do that if he complies. They should be ready, willing, and able to change if EuroYank refutes their position. EuroYank says that he's not going to blog anymore; so after 3 months of no new posts, Entrecard could take down his site from Entrecard anyway.

Also, Entrecard really needs to figure out how to handle EC balances. EC obtained under a false application for membership is one thing, but just wiping out someone's EC when he or she has offended some overly sensitive or conniving types is not a good practice at all. EC should be transferable.

As for the tax issues you didn't mention, Entrecard, get a tax lawyer and a second and third opinion before you dig an extremely deep and expensive hole.

God Bless You, Matt,

Tom

Of course, your "fellow Nigerian political bloggers get arrested and detained without appropriate legal recourse" because the powers that be don't want to hear them, don't want others to hear them, and those powers have the money from the unethical means they've used to gain control.

Not all censorship is designed around that unethical motivation. That unethical motivation actually rides the coattails of ethical censorship. It hides behind it.

Entrecard is far from the only social "networking" system with a line that has come to be controlled by those who want their unethical positions protected. That is the problem for truth.

The only way to break that stranglehold is to break the cycle of selfishness. We must make giving and sharing work. That means we must not allow deviators such as violent Marxists to control the movement to giving and sharing. The argument must be moved from one between greedy capitalism and Marxism to between that capitalism (no matter how so-called "pure") and the vision of Jesus.

Marx was a major diversionary tactic who worked to the advantage of the plutocrats: Bankers (evil usurers), capitalists, fascists, imperialists, colonialists, et al.

One need only follow the oil money to know what's mainly wrong with Nigeria.

Thanks for commenting.

Bless Your House.

Tom

Thanks for this post... if you don't already know I am one of the moderators, i was on a short leave of absense when all this went down and I am still trying to get caught up on it, the moderators for EntreCard have a meeting set up for tonight and I fully intend to get to the bottom of this. As a person with a blog that can be very offensive to certain people I would not value being removed from the system just because a few people decided to bitch about it, If that was the policy of Entrecard I WAS NEVER AWARE OF IT. I will find out tonight what exactly is going on.

I do know this...EuroYank has no grounds whatsoever for a lawsuit...because Entrecard is privately owned they can ban whomever they please, whenever they please, for whatever they please...just like you can refuse to serve someone in your own restaurant at any time that you choose...at this point it seems to me that EuroYank may be guilty of the same thing our common enemy is guilty of - restricting freedom of private individuals to do as they please with their property. I checked out his blog, i was not offended and actually agree with him more than not---I am a conspiracy nut just like you two...

Either way, let's avoid jumping to conclusions for now, please. I want to know the truth about this and will do my best to find it.

Thanks

Matt Oxley
RagingRev.com

I am a political blogger that has watched my fellow Nigerian political bloggers get arrested and detained without appropriate legal recourse. It is very disappointing to learn that ECard might join the likes of Nigeria's government and other in censoring free speech.

I will admit that I was unaware of EuroYank's situation and will now take the time to learn more as independently as possible. But, what I have learned so far is just not good.

Even though I am a lawyer, I have a tolerance for limited and appropriate censorship. But, as a lawyer, I understand the importance of free speech, no matter how annoying or even offensive (in certain cases) it can sometimes be. I hope that this is all some kind of mistake that will be remedied.

I'll check the Eden Bible. I use a number of different versions. I'm not a King James Only person at all. Even though I'm not a Calvinist, I actually like the Geneva version better than the KJV. The KJV was written by the monarchists, and it shows. The only monarchy I'm in favor of is the Kingdom of Heaven, where everyone owns everything and nothing. I love it!

I actually saw your update on the whole Entrecard censorship issue. I'm sure they won't bump you for it. I'm favorably impressed by some of the commentators you quoted from the forum on Entrecard (heads up, watch out for the copyright police — vindictive). I'm intending on going to their sites on account of it. (I looked for your comment form, but didn't locate one. Are you using just the Javascript shoutbox?)

We can't get at the truth if we aren't allowed to search for it. We can't share our findings if others oppress us. This is the same struggle since "the beginning" in the Biblical sense. An Internet friend and Christian brother (really), Scott McQueen, recently wrote a post about Psalm 119 (Just a Different Way of Speaking the Word) that reminded me how humanity is the oppressor.

"Deliver me from the oppression of man: so will I keep thy precepts." (Psalms 119:134 KJVR)

Scott's very much like EuroYank in that Scott too has a repenting heart. He hates what he did as his former or old self. I love people doing that — repenting. It's what the whole world needs to do. I certainly hate the old me, and I'm not perfected yet.

Perhaps you've been to Scott's blog before when dropping Entrecards. He's a great guy. We need a couple billion more like him just for starters. Heaven is filled with Scott-types getting up, dusting themselves off, and singing the praises of God — the real One.

As for the tax matter, it would impact upon Entrecard much more than Entrecard's users. The IRS wouldn't be as stupid as to target every Entrecard blogger in the U.S.

Some climber though somewhere working the political angle will whisper in someone's ear and then a phone call or two will be made to some elected representative(s). The likeliest source will be someone with a "banking" interest/connection. They don't want the competition. Entrecard could become an Amazon.com dealing in EC rather than taxable dollars. It's such a small niche yet that it hasn't shown up on the radar screen. It will though. It will be the small-fry libertarian capitalists (who hate EuroYank) versus the bankers (or banksters, as many refer to them), who fund the big-fry ostensible (read phony) libertarian-capitalist think tanks. Ironic? No, tricky. This isn't lost on EuroYank. He knows who the plutocrats are.

For someone who calls herself a "bad gal" you sure come across as no enemy of Christ. I know, bad is good, as in you're bad when the person is really good at something. It's for fun. I realize that. I'm not a snob. Social climbers are actually digging their own graves.

I went to both public and private schools. I'm glad I did. Not everyone in the private schools was a snob, and there were some huge snobs in the public schools. Being streetwise is a real benefit though. The strictly preppy types just don't know what that's all about.

Anyway, so what trouble did EuroYank have with the founder of Entrecard some years back? Can they...

Leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way; first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift. Agree with thine adversary quickly, whiles thou art in the way with him; lest at any time the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison. (Matthew 5:24-25 KJVR)

Thank You, Sister,

Tom

the update to your original post is highlighted today in my continuance of the whole mess on BadGalsRadio.

we hope this tax issue doesn't become a financial mess as well, but we feel compelled to as you have done; bring it to the minds of the people, who will be most effected.

Thank You for Continuing the Good Fight and if I am removed you will already know why.

My Prayers and Good Thought to You and Your Readers.

~RE

It is not possible to be free of evil and be wallowing in it at the same time. The standard is the most important thing there is. Think about how Jesus's standard is the highest there is while he is not the one who judges, condemns, or punishes. This is a paradox for many. Many cannot reconcile it. He says his father (spirit, figure), our God, has created the inescapable system where we end up on the receiving end of our own standard (ranging from emotions to deeds). Many people rail against God for this. Think about how senseless that is. God is so forgiving and merciful.

Look at all the time that goes by while souls are given repeated opportunities to change to the higher and highest standard. Then realize that in God's system, Satan, who is the spirit of humanity's lesser standards and lowest standard, is the one who does the actual punishing. Now, how does anyone get to Heaven here and now and/or hereafter without knowing the difference between right and wrong and simply choosing right? What's so hard about this? Why do humans make this so difficult for each other? Why don't they all support each other in doing their best rather than rationalizing and complaining against God's system?

Oh, I hear the atheists (some) going on and on about how Jesus doesn't have a monopoly on righteousness. What are they thinking? How do they define righteousness? They dumb it down.

Anyone (Sam Harris, Richard Dawkins, Christopher Hitchens...), show us even one atheist who is on the same moral high ground as Jesus Christ. How can anyone be as good as is Christ while not even believing in the Oneness that transcends this plane of existence let alone joining it?

What atheist will love me enough to go to the cross for me? How can an atheist do it, when he or she doesn't know what going to the cross means? How can the atheist take away the sins of the world — all of them, as Jesus is still doing (if reader, you are given to comprehend)?

How can the atheist brave Hell and be lifted out in righteousness if the atheist doesn't believe in such forces? The atheist gets hung up on semantical traps.

We are here for a reason. They can't rightly appeal to pure reason without having any; nevertheless, they try to get away with doing just that. The atheist has no premises upon which to build a moral foundation. They are always left in the relative position where the sociopath is not refuted. They cannot refute the sociopaths. Jesus though can and does. Why are people duped into falling for atheism? It's so transparently illogical on both the mundane and divine levels.

Oh, there's a metaphysical naturalism, but it isn't what the atheists claim it is. The real metaphysical naturalism is the conflation of the New Heaven and New Earth (spirit and flesh). The atheists just don't get it. The way the atheists twist the term metaphysical naturalism, it becomes an oxymoron — naturally.

As for Gandhi, per se, he believed in Rama (Vishnu) but not Jesus as the fulfillment of such. He ultimately did not reject violence. He left room for the oppressed to resort to violence. These are unacceptable positions. Jesus did not even resort to passive resistance. He even paid the tribute to Caesar, not to honor Caesar or to facilitate Caesar's oppression over the people but in complete consistency with the truth that Caesar's world was another universe (Shiva's).

Oh, Jesus knew about Hinduism. He didn't live in a vacuum. People weren't nearly as ignorant of the wider worldly world as people falsely imagine today that they were. In fact, without endless TV entertainment and other current, mind-numbing activities .... Well, I leave it to you to fill that in with your own understanding.

Supernatural

I remember that one community banned me after I started a thread about Ghandi. At first the community was very nice too me and acknowledged that Ghandism could indeed work in India if you are dealing with a civillized people like the British but they flat out told me that Ghandism is totally ineffective when you are dealing with Adolph Hitler who can only understand brute force.

From which version is that verse? I'm not familiar with the wording.

I wonder how this will be received by the staff at Entrecard. What I want to see is the exact infraction. What is it on his site that crossed the line in the reviewer's eyes?

Well, somehow good will come out of this.

It's not right that people can't speak what they truly believe and that isn't advocating evil. To me, EuroYank comes across as someone who has worked hard to glean truth from across the spectrum while rejecting what he's so far has identified as bad for humanity in general. I don't see any racism or ethnic bigotry or advocating violence or coercion coming out of him against anyone.

This banning stuff is a real trying and tempting time for people when they experience it. It's hard to be Christlike and just take it — even offering up the other cheek as a testimony against them.

I'll try to comprehend your site more. It will be easier to do now that you've left your comment here. It puts things into clearer perspective for me.

Thanks, and God bless.

Sincerely,

Tom

P.S. I do hope you've used your real name in accordance with the comment rules here. It's not always easy for me to tell.

remember that passage.
EuroYank does.

I had a long chat with him the other nite before he left entrecard and he clarified for me his reasons for wrapping up his blog - and they are clearly posted on his website as his final post.

I also reposted his last post link as well as a link to part of one of his posts, and I tell you I never saw anything his site that would merit removal from entrecard.

Bless You for Speaking Up for the Warrior - EuroYank.